Andrea Urban Fox... liar and cyberbully?

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... or someone massively delusional and paranoid?


I don't know. Possibly Andrea can enlighten me.

http://nemesisrespondsto.blogspot.co.uk/2012/11/andrea-urban-fox-drama-queen.html

Chapter one there.

Chapter two of the Andrea rebuttal saga... there are further chapters to come...

In which this writer humbly suggests that Andrea is a fantasist, which is a polite way of saying she's possibly an out and out liar?

Oh look... it appears that others think so too.

https://encyclopediadramatica.es/Andreaurbanfox

New year, same old from this person. Its latest fad is writing blogs about me…and claiming I`m the one obsessed…Oh sweet irony! LOL! < Snork! Andrea, who writes crazy blogs about me AND allows the most barking of comments from her more than slightly obsessed troll pals. Irony indeed :0)

Here's Andrea's Twitter Faker score by the way. She's obviously gained her massive following by using those 'get more Followers fast' spambots. So of her 'fanbase' only 5% are real / active? Wow. Impressive.

http://twitpic.com/bqf0t0

I could do this sequentially, but I thought I'd do it in flashback and flash forward. That's cos I'm a literary sort of person as well as an academic sort. Also, I feel her most recent outbursts should be shared with a wider audience, in order they can see for themselves the extent of what I construe as her manipulation and lies.

Andrea describes this blog as 'peurile'.  Clearly I have hit a nerve as she's also described it as 'crap'.  It's also truthful, which is possibly why she's so keen to rubbish it?

Poor Andrea. It appears me writing the truth has made her foam and attempt again to libel me and lie about me.  Apparently only Andrea can write blogs...

I've read a few of her blogposts, and her comments on other blogs, not only those where she's lying about me, and being paranoid, and attempting to play victim; although everyone has the right to an opinion, I haven't found her opinions to be other than banally expressed, angry rants mostly, and in great need of an editorial hand, but hey.

Over the past almost two years, Andrea has made all manner of barmy claims about me, and I have kept a copy of some of those. Yep, I can post screenshots, so the evidence remains even when she's deleted them.

Mostly what I have done is laugh at her, and point out her lies. And frankly, she's made a huge laughing stock of herself, and is continuing to do so with her crazed claims and massive butthurt.

Amongst her barmy claims, she says I stalk her, cyberbully her, that I have set up numerous fake accounts where I 'slate and destroy her character', that I supported now banned Islamic group MAC, that I am an anti-Semite; she claims all manner of untrue things. She claims I am so scary she has moved house and changed phone number. She lies I have put her address on the internet. She foams about it, then claims she has never hidden who she is, what her real name is and her address...  she's called Andrea Urban Fox then?

As I haven't a clue re her address and phone number, and only found out she is called something along the lines of Andrea da Silva or Andrea Goncalves recently, when she herself posted a video on her very public Facebook Page, that's bit of a joke isn't it? (Reading public posts isn't stalking dear. If you don't want things to be read, don't put them on the internet).




It was OK for her to name me on her blog, lie about me, call me a troll, attempt to destroy MY character, allow the most crazed comments on her own blog about me, and link from there to a scurrilous, lying, trolling blog about me in which she admits she had a hand, but that somehow is different?

Andrea quote > Not long ago I totally lost my cool and wrote a blog asking my followers to block/report her because she brought my son into her trolling

It appears Andrea is keen on manipulating mass reporting of those with whom she disagrees. Also I cannot recall 'bringing her son' into anything, and I don't consider I'm a troll.

Andrea, if you help others to troll me and join in with cyberbullying,  then no use whining and playing butthurt and playing the I'm all grown up now and wish to forget my past game.  I'm going nowhere and nor is the truth. I'll carry on exposing that truth, and your lies

So Andrea, tell me which are these loads of fake accounts you claim I have? The parody one you claimed on your FB Page was me wasn't me, and despite me telling you this you continued to write whining abuse at me. You whined I had written on your PUBLIC Facebook Page defending myself, (the only means I had of communicating with you) then you whined when I deleted what I had said.

Then there's this pile of nonsense, posted on a blog when someone reblogged your whining about me.

 My take on that? You were joining in with an episode of cyberbullying and harassing on a blog by someone who I HAVE reported to police and who agree was defaming me,  someone er... associated with far right groups with a reputation for violence.  You do seem to associate with these people on Twitter too...  some of those abuse me...  You may not belong to these groups but you do associate with those who do. You associate with people whose abuse of me is longstanding and malicious and it is my view you encourage them to do so. I have proof of your involvement.

And your smears about antisemitic comments are wearing thin.  It's a lie.

I'm sure many far right, racist and abusive trolls will be happy to add malicious comments Andrea, and you will be happy to allow them. However, consider how badly this reflects on you, how it all undermines what shred of credibility you may have thought you had left. ( See footnotes screenshots too).

Your view of me I really don't care about, but outright lies, as a great deal of the above is, is really making you sound not quite sane. I don't have 'associates' whom I get to 'troll you' (though I can't say the same about you). Whatever others put on the internet is not at my instigation.

I did find wry amusement in the Official EDL Twitter RT ing your nonsense though. Championed by the far right, who use cyberbullying names and claims of 'fascism'  to those refuting their extremist hate agenda?

My you do have interesting friends! But no links to far right, of course...

You appeared to find this amusing, so why then whine about it? Though the account was certainly NOT mine:

Note: photo is a YouTube still.  Not Andrea's copyright. Andrea did not add the beard. 

As I said in chapter one of this, I only came across you I think at around the beginning of 2011, and you Followed me on Twitter then. I have DMs from you dating from the end of January 2011, so how can you have blocked me before then as you keep claiming?

I've never Tweeted your address.. though apparently it's not a secret... and you apparently don't care?

I`m not hiding behind fake accs, with no pic. My pics are online, they know where I live. I`m not a coward like they are.  < Andrea

 You seem happy enough to smear me, bandy my name around on your blog, and now my location, my age (yes I'm a senior citizen) and an ancient photo of me (which you also posted on Twitter). You are happy to encourage people to troll me and harass me. You lie I stalk you, whatever you mean by that.  You lied you blocked me for making anti-Semitic comments. I didn't, you didn't, as I stated in the first chapter of this blog.

 Bullshit is my response. It's all a steaming pile of self-obsessed dung.

This is from your own blog, not aimed at me this time (are you always this unpleasant to people by the way? You do seem to go out of your way to be vile...). Interesting. Either you care or you don't, can't have it both ways. You do appear to have a high opinion of your own importance too...

And why you were telling a load of porkies (again...) this week?

You still get daily mentions? Lies, though since this I have been tweeting it and other shots. Sure, I want my blog and my view of your nonsense to be widely read.

Several sock puppet accounts to bully you? Proof please? Though you have happily joined in with an account created to cyberbully me,  and yes I have evidence of that.

Links to extremist groups? Nope, can't say I've done that, I'm sure you aren't a member of the EDL, though you do appear happy to tweet with supporters of such groups, and allow them to use what I perceive as your bullying, lying bullshit on their blogs.

Police? I suspect police aren't interested in those who are proven liars.

Police need a known associate of Muslim hating extremists whose Followers are mainly fake to help with their Twitter? My that's er interesting! Can't Tower Hamlets employ someone with expertise?
And you are going to 'bargain' with police? You seriously think you can do that, and that you have any case at all? Wasting police time more like.

You have moved home, changed phone because of me? Staggering if true. If true, it shows how deluded you are and I suggest you seek professional medical help.

Er... slander is verbal. I have put very little online about you until now, though I can't say the same about you, whining about me on Facebook, on Twitter, and on your bizarre blog for a very long time.
Nutter? Hmmmm

Posting your pics? Well, as far as I knew the YouTube pic was not your copyright, if indeed copyright can be claimed for a frame from a You Tube video it's not yours, and if you don't wish the other photoshopped job on my blog, why not say so? But you don't seem to mind photos of you being used? See blog extract above...  and you were happy to pass round on Twitter a picture of me, along with bitchy comment,

Hated all over the internet? Really? Juvenile. I suspect billions of people on the internet neither know nor care about me, most 'hater' stuff has been posted by you and pals anyhow. I have around 3,500 Twitter Followers, last time I checked only 2% were fakers (when I find who I block them). Do they Follow as they hate me? Wow.

Trolling? So they Follow me as I'm a troll do they? Really?

There is more to come Andrea, if you feel any of what I have said is untrue and you can prove it, there's a comments box. Post the proof.

As for taking steps... that's interesting... do tell. I hope it isn't anything unlawful, as those who harass me are reported to police.

Love

Nem

xxx

I'll add more tags later Andrea...  OCD sociopath liar and troll maybe? Stalker?  Things you have labelled me? I recall terrorist too LOL.

Andrea Urban Fox, drama queen.

"She's simply a lying attention seeker, thriving on drama of her own making..."

"...victim delusion..." *

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https://encyclopediadramatica.es/Andreaurbanfox

http://youtu.be/bROq__SbUH8

(Andrea, who next time she passes rude comments on my appearance and posts an ancient photo of me on Twitter really should study this You Tube video of her more carefully... and no use posting it on your  PUBLIC Page on Facebook and then whining people saw it Andrea... )



This is a YouTube video and as the conditions of YouTube allow for embedding then I have done so.

Or as Andrea would like you to see her as (ie heavily photoshopped...)

https://encyclopediadramatica.es/Andreaurbanfox

As it says on the tin, I'm responding. I suppose I should have done this a long, long time ago, as far back as February 2011, but, life being short and my patience with self-obsessed drama queens who appear to be not the full shilling even shorter, I didn't. However, as this situation hasn't gone away and has been stirred up by someone this week in a very silly blog, to which I am denied a right of reply in the comments (and on which Andrea has told outright lies about me),  I decided to dig out the ol' screenshot collection, dust down the memories, and give an attention seeker the attention she so craves, in the hope it makes her happy and puts the record straight. I'll do this in parts.

 Are you sitting comfortably? Then I'll begin.


Part One

In which I begin to address the lie spread by a sly Fox I am an anti-Semite and tweeted anti-Semitic tweets  re Aaron Porter debacle.

Around January 2011 (note the date, it will prove useful eventually) I followed, and was followed by, a person on Twitter. As luck (or administrative sloth) would have it, I didn't clear out the email telling me this, and a search this week provided this proof:

http://twitpic.com/b97iut

 We tweeted  a little with each other, even had some Direct Messaging (I still have those too). I didn't find her tweets particularly interesting and she came across as a slightly unpleasant, angry, egotistical character; when she began adding the hashtag #retard to certain tweets when describing people I did wonder if perhaps an unfollow would be a wise course of action. However, I persevered. This proved to be a BIG Mistake.

For then things took a nasty turn.

I covered in my tweets the 29th January 2011 demo involving NUS leader Aaron Porter, who was deeply unpopular. A couple of those I tweet with, one a University lecturer and another a student whose tweets I had found to be unhysterical and worth believing, were tweeting what they could from the demo. A popular chant aimed at the unpopular Porter at that time was "You're a Tory too", a reference to what was seen as his selling out in not opposing the imposition of education cuts and higher fees.

Then the hysteria and smears began in the right wing press, that Porter had been subjected to a barrage of anti Semitic abuse.

Student leader Aaron Porter barracked with anti-Semitic insults

The head of the National Union of Students had to be led to safety from a tuition fees rally he had been due to address after being surrounded by protesters chanting anti-semitic insults at him.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/education/educationnews/8290571/Student-leader-Aaron-Porter-barracked-with-anti-Semitic-insults.html


And as the Mail had it:

The president of the National Union of Students was yesterday rescued by police from angry protesters chanting anti-Jewish abuse and demanding his resignation.
Aaron Porter was surrounded by a 150-strong mob who broke away from a student fees protest in Manchester.
As 12 officers led him to safety, there were chants of ‘Aaron Porter we know you, you’re a f******* Tory too’.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1351853/Student-leader-faces-barrage-anti-Jewish-abuse-rally-protesters-accuse-Tory.html

Now I can't imagine why the Tory press would feel the need to smear students demonstrating against Tory policy of cuts and fees, but apparently it did, and apparently certain people who dislike what they perceive as 'lefties' felt it a good plan to spread this lie via Twitter.

And lo it came to pass a person called Andrea decided to believe it, and began joining in with the barrage of tweets about these students and their alleged anti-Semitism. Now I'm an academic sort of person, and I like FACTS. I like FACTS and citations and references and reality. I don't like lies and the spreading of them.

http://leftoutside.wordpress.com/2011/01/30/clarification-on-aaron-porter/
Clarification on Aaron Porter

Yesterday I posted a quick blog on the strange lack of evidence that supported early claims that Aaron Porter had been racially abused. This seemed all the more curious as student led protests are going to be smart phone, and therefor camera and microphone heavy affairs.
It has now transpired that rather than being idle gossip, Aaron Porter himself, according to an email to NUS members excerpted by the FT after I wrote my post, claims he was racially abused. I may not like his politics, but nobody deserves to be subjected to racism and I hope this incident is investigated fully

Jan 30th 2011

Note the Andrea Urban Fox like and link, as well as mentioned alleged  #EDL supporters including the anti-Semite Islamophobic racist etc etc more than slightly bonkers troll @WeAreTheBrits tweeting the story...

Links to full sized shots here

http://twitpic.com/btv629/full

http://twitpic.com/b9x34j/full

 

 

I checked with those who had physically been there, and they denied having heard any such chants and abuse, and I attempted to set the record straight with Andrea (even got someone who was actually within yards of Porter to attempt to set the record straight with her) in the hope she would cease spreading porkies. This seemed to work her up into a froth; it became obvious that backtracking wasn't going to happen, no matter how much proof was provided, and she became unpleasant.

  

And of course in a short time the truth came out that indeed the reported anti-Semitism and / or racial abuse was a figment of the imagination of reporters of the right wing press:

Further to publication of this article, we have been contacted by Mr Michael Shaw, a student who was positioned in close proximity to Mr Porter during the protest. Mr Shaw denies that anti-Semitic abuse of any kind was chanted, stating that he heard nothing to support such an assertion.

And then of course eventually Aaron Porter admitted he had not heard such anti-Semitic abuse either, and the press admitted the basis for its reports was dodgy in the extreme.

A useful piece on the subject from Manchester Mule

http://manchestermule.com/article/nus-official-was-source-for-anti-semitic-allegations

Aaron Porter has admitted that he did not hear anti-Semitic chanting at the protest against him prior to the January 29 “A Future that Works” march in Manchester, MULE can reveal. An investigation also discovered that an NUS official, believed to be an aide to Porter, was one of the two sources for the Daily Telegraph‘s allegations that the NUS President was “barracked” by racist chanting. The revelations will likely prove controversial, as protesters present maintain that no such chanting occurred.

After contacting the Telegraph, MULE learned that there are only two sources for their story – a PA photographer who claimed to have heard the chants directed at Porter, and the NUS itself. It was also revealed that neither reporters from the Telegraph nor the Daily Mail, the two newspapers that initially reported the allegations, were present at the protest.
When contacted, the Mail refused to give the name of the photographer who initially made the claims, and who was the sole source for their article, the final version of which was titled: “Student leader faces barrage of anti-Jewish abuse at rally as protesters accuse him of being a Tory.”

When MULE asked to speak to the NUS official who heard the chants, who is believed to be an aide to Porter, an NUS Press Officer said: “We cannot allow you to speak to the person directly. As there is an ongoing police investigation into the allegations we feel it is not appropriate to discuss it in the press.”

Porter himself also admitted to MULE that he had not himself heard any racial abuse, and that the NUS confirmed the story when journalists contacted them for comment. In a statement through the NUS Press Office he said:

“I was not certain what was said by those shouting abuse at me, however I was informed by others present that amongst other things anti-Semitic comments were made....


...Chris Marks, also a member of Alliance for Worker’s Liberty and Hull Students Against Fees and Cuts, confirmed Ismail’s account. When asked if there was any anti-Semitic chants he said:
“Absolutely and categorically not. I was at the front of the group which instigated the protest. If there had been anti-Semitic chants we would have heard and challenged it. Anything shouted was jovial.”

Marks told MULE that he was never approached or spoken to by any journalists. He also added that there was a BBC reporter outside Manchester Metropolitan Students’ Union where Mr Porter was taken. The BBC news reports did not allege hearing anti-Semitic chants...


I did attempt to alert 'Andrea Urban Fox' to the refutation of the smears she had been keen to believe; however, apparently accepting she was wrong would leave her with egg on face. What happpened next? My expressions of doubts as to the veracity of the Porter story were 'interpreted' by Andrea as me making anti-Semitic tweets (nope I didn't).

I unfollowed her. I blocked her. She frothed in a tweet on the #EDL hashtag about this; though not naming me directly it was obvious it was me to whom she referred.  She later claimed she blocked me first for being an anti-Semite; this is a downright lie. I've since realised Andrea and truth at times don't collide.

It was around then I first found my Twitter account linked to on her blog and I was labelled a troll.

Thus began a childish internet smear campaign against me, that I am an anti-Semite and also stalking her.






Well, that's Part One. Worse stuff follows.

To be continued...


Part Two coming soon.  There may be dragons and fairies and princesses and Three Billy Goats Gruff and such, there may not, there will be a VERY sly Fox,

and a few trolls, in an increasingly bizarre tale of a Twitter spat, and where it can lead.

For hell, it appears,  hath no fury like a woman unfollowed, and made to look a little foolish on Twitter


* http://twitpic.com/6hfmvy

 

Nem xxx

Whatever...

The internet is a very odd place. I've met many wonderful people via the internet. I've enjoyed blogging on my various blogs and have accrued a decent following on Twitter without having to resort to those progs which gain you several thousand spam and fake followers in a day or two. I have a Page on Facebook where I post things which interest me, and a few Pinterest boards which I update occasionally.

The downside of the internet is cyberbullying, and I've met my fair share of those pesky people too.

Stalkers, harassers, liars, trolls, and simply butthurt drama queens, yep, I've come across them. In fact I appear to attract all manner of weirdo people who obsess about me, even pretend to be me, spend huge amounts of their time and energy on me, attempting (and mostly failing) to do some sort of reputational damage to a reputation I'm not sure I had in the first place... the price of being on the internet and having differing views to others I suppose.

So I felt it was time to start an occasional blog where I can out a few of these people,  respond to and refute some of the bullshit they post about me and others,  put together a few screenshots which help tell a story, and maybe we can share a wry laugh at them along the way...

I'm sure there will be the occasional response to other things I come across on t'internet and where I need to vent my spleen / share my wisdom / rant a bit also, which would fit here rather than my other blogs.

Whatever...

Nem